Ok, you've convinced me not to Range Rover. BUT WHAT ABOUT...???

"Nathan" (netochan) 08/23/2015 at 14:13 • Filed to: Porsche Cayenne

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A 2004 PORSCHE CAYENNE????

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 14:15

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dogisbadob > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 14:17

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Nice Touregg, but if you like mainstream SUV’s rebadged for more luxury and prestige, the Lexus LX470 is a lot better.

PS9 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 08/23/2015 at 14:18

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But it’s a Porsche!

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 14:19

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Sure you can get an old V6 automatic one for peanuts. But why would anyone

TheOnelectronic > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 14:19

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If it’s anything like the current-gen one my parents have, they’re amazing SUVs. Not quite a Range Rover, but the next best thing, probably.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > PS9 08/23/2015 at 14:21

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IT’S THE WRONG ONE

Sam > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 14:22

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Those aren’t bad, they just suffer from ass face.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 14:23

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Nearly as unreliable as a Range Rover but a lot uglier.

PS9 > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 08/23/2015 at 14:23

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Hey now, we may not agree with their lifestyle, but sadomasochists need cars too.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 08/23/2015 at 14:25

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It’s a VW

Vicente Esteve > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 14:26

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AH YEAH. I ADORE these. I was in a Turbo S a while ago and the owner caned it all the time, which made me rethink the laws of physics.

They aren’t THAT unreliable, but you have to maintain them properly.

georgechristensen > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 14:26

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A Touareg isn’t hideous like the Cayenne.

Vicente Esteve > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 08/23/2015 at 14:26

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SHUT UP

Vicente Esteve > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 08/23/2015 at 14:28

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NOPE

Textured Soy Protein > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 14:29

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Get an ‘05 or newer Lexus GX470 and set aside some cash for if/when the air suspension breaks.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vicente Esteve 08/23/2015 at 14:32

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Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Vicente Esteve 08/23/2015 at 14:32

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Yes, it is hideous. That is a face only a mother could love, barely.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 14:35

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They’re damn good SUVs, and a bit more reliable than the Rover. ONLY a bit, but still.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 14:37

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I don’t think the first gen Cayenne has aged well.

Vicente Esteve > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 08/23/2015 at 14:37

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Vicente Esteve > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 08/23/2015 at 14:40

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I can’t hear you over the awesomeness

FromCanadaWithLove > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 14:41

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If you think it’s ugly on the outside, try looking at that steering wheel every day.

Nibby > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 14:44

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Just buy yourself a box of explosives and put wheels on it.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > FromCanadaWithLove 08/23/2015 at 14:44

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If you count the Horn icons, there are ten buttons on that steering wheel.

CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 14:47

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Make sure to get a Turbo S. If it's unreliable already or requires high maintenance, why not go all the way. Boost BOost BOOst BOOSt BOOST ALL THE WAY

E92M3 > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 14:50

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The base Cayenne with the V6 is a dog. Handles amazing for an SUV though. A friend of mine had a Turbo S, and the only problem he ever had was a wheel bearing.

Steve in Manhattan > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 14:55

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Do you have to have an SUV?

Amoore100 > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 14:55

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Totally wrong. What you want is this:

A VW Touraeg. With a twin turbodiesel V10. 309 bhp, 553 lb-ft of torque. It can tow a 747. That is all.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vicente Esteve 08/23/2015 at 14:58

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Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 08/23/2015 at 15:04

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And even worse... a VW mostly built in Slovakia. The only thing they install in Germany is the interior, some trim and do the final inspection there.

dogisbadob > TheOnelectronic 08/23/2015 at 15:06

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The Land Cruiser/LX is 1000x better

TheOnelectronic > dogisbadob 08/23/2015 at 15:08

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You’re hardly an unbiased source.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 15:13

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Instead... Get a VW Touareg... with either the W12 or the V10 TDI.

The love/hate relationship should be even stronger with that one.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > PS9 08/23/2015 at 15:17

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What do you own now?

dogisbadob > TheOnelectronic 08/23/2015 at 15:22

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Maybe not, but all you need to do is ask RR owners that didn’t buy the extended warranty, and Doug DeMuro, who has most likely been blacklisted from Carmax :p

j250ex > dogisbadob 08/23/2015 at 15:39

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But about $15,000 for a nice used 100 series

NotUnlessRoundIsFunny > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 15:40

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If you really want to continue in this direction, you can save a lot of hassle but still simulate owning a Range Rover: at random intervals an Opponaut will come disable your current car until you pay an arbitrary but substantial bill, then wait a variable amount of time until your car is made driveable again.

We accept PayPal.

:-)

TheOnelectronic > dogisbadob 08/23/2015 at 15:43

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I didn’t say they were more reliable, just better SUVs.

MuchWagon > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 08/23/2015 at 16:12

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I came here to say get the TDI. Not that I have any experience with them, but seems like a super formula if the vw diesels don’t suffer from the same vw reliability issues.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > MuchWagon 08/23/2015 at 16:30

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I predict the V10 TDI’s fuel economy won’t be much better than the gas V6 and most of the savings will be blown away by the higher cost of diesel in the US. On top of that, it’s a low-volume engine, so parts/service will be more difficult.

Also... the V10 has 2 electric fuel pumps, 2 MAFs, 2 EGR systems, 2 throttle bodies and 2 turbochargers. And it takes 11 liters of premium oil with every oil change.

I predict the love and hate will be extreme... as it would be for the W12, but just in a different way.

Slave2anMG > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 16:57

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Steve in Manhattan > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 17:12

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Holy shit - the answer just smacked me in the face.

P H A E T O N

Steve in Manhattan > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 17:13

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Also, did anyone say Pontiac GTO 6M? Or a G8?

boxrocket > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 19:45

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If you like fast SUVs that are surprisingly capable off road (but not to Land Rover levels) and look like jellybeans on wheels, the Cayenne isn’t a terrible choice.

But I'd choose a Range Rover every time.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 08/23/2015 at 22:24

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Not ment for you PS9, kinja fucked up

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 22:24

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What do you own now?

JR1 > Nathan 08/23/2015 at 23:21

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I've been in a handful of cool cars including a Gallardo and a ZR1. However nothing has ever impressed me more than when we took a 2010 Cayenne around a small autocross. So much power. So much flat cornering. So awesome

NotUnlessRoundIsFunny > Nathan 08/24/2015 at 04:36

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I hope my previous snarky comment didn’t offend. I totally get the desire for a car where the wanting overwhelms the common sense. I’ve indulged it many times.

Plus, these days I’m lusting after a Jag XK-R, and how reliable could that POSSIBLY be?

pip bip - choose Corrour > Nathan 08/24/2015 at 06:01

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buy the Range Rover.

STAT!